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| The towers fell from a combination of the impact destroying part of the supporting columns and fires reducing the strength of the steel. The extra weight of the plane (and collapsed floors) probably contributed to the collapse. | Building 7 was ignored by the 9/11 Commission report, but the official story claims that part of a tower made a large gash on the building, and diesel fires from an emergency generator caused the building to collapse. |
| Evidence for the demolition of the towers is largely based on inference (the physical evidence has all been recycled). The demolition theories are not needed to prove complicity. | The real scandal of the collapse of the towers were the faulty construction standards that were used. An excellent compilation by the Progressive Review documents numerous examples. |
There is an enormous amount of nonsense marketed as "physical evidence" but they are just hoaxes refuted by the physical evidence |
we're waiting for the "No Buildings" theories (the towers never existed) ... |
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The position of OilEmpire.US is that a faction of the Bush administration demolished the towers by allowing the planes to be hijacked, but explosives were probably NOT in the buildings. It is likely, but unprovable with public domain evidence, that remote control technology that can be built into Boeing planes was used to "hijack the hijackers." It is reasonable to assume the impacts of the planes plus the blast furnace type fires were sufficient to ensure the collapse of the towers. It is fortunate they remained standing long enough for those below the impact zones to escape. The official complicity to let it happen and provide technical assistance resulted in demolition, but not in the scenario that much of the "truth movement" postulates. The evidence for suppression of numerous warnings, interference with investigations of the flight schools before 9/11 and the multiple exercises on 9/11 is more than enough for an impeachment and conviction for aiding and abetting. Further details are like arguing whether the Reichstag in Germany was burned with gasoline or kerosene -- while the camps for dissidents are being completed for use. As with the Kennedy assassinations, the real issues are WHY 9/11 was allowed to happen, not the fine details of how it was technically accomplished. We are as unlikely to know the precise mechanisms behind 9/11 as the identity of the shooters of John F. Kennedy and Robert F. Kennedy, but why these crimes were committed is much less obscure, and a more fruitful path for serious investigation that could lead to positive social changes. If there is any truth to the demolition theories, it is unlikely to be found in the loudest promotions of these claims (Loose Change, Scholars for 9/11 Truth), which is why the media strategy is to focus on these alleged investigators and not those who highlight much better evidence that is not easily attacked. The third skyscraper that collapsed - Building 7 - was hit by substantial debris from the collapsing towers, had more significant fires than reported by most 9/11 "truth" websites and videos, and the firefighters had concluded hours before its collapse that it was going to fall down, too. The three collapses do look like controlled demolitions, but that is not proof that they were -- and there is an increasing volume of easily debunked nonsense promoting demolition theories in websites and videos. There are good claims for demolition, good claims against it, and silly hoaxes for it that are easily debunked. Whatever the truths for or against demolition theories, they are not needed to show complicity in 9/11. As Carl Sagan famously said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. So far, there are not any verifiable, unshakeable proofs for demolition (even the best claims are inferential). Meanwhile, there is well documented evidence that shows abundant warnings from close US allies that were very specific to time, plane, means. Some of the gaps not explained by any demolition theories:
The only "physical evidence" investigation making a serious effort to carefully evaluate "physical evidence" is wtc7.net / 911review.com / 911research.com. Most of the other web based efforts focused on demolition still promote the hoax that Flight 77 did not hit the (nearly empty part of the) Pentagon and therefore are not careful in their efforts (even if they are sincere, which some of them are). Some pro-demolition efforts fail to mention the word NORAD in their efforts, which suggests there might be a deliberate effort to misdirect the truth movement. Some advocates of the silliest complicity hoaxes aggressively promote the idea of demolition with "evidence" that is easy to expose as fake. There are two possible explanations:
www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a111099wtcfire#a111099wtcfire
David Ray Griffin has compiled a list of some of the top claims for demolition. Here are a few rebuttals to the assertions. Tactically, it would be much more helpful to have credible structural engineers and other relevant experts present these claims, instead of theologians. The 9/11 debunkers who support the official story have had much fun pointing to the scanty technical qualifications of the "Scholars for 9/11 Truth" regarding the physical evidence issues -- while ignoring a large volume of evidence that does not require scientific analysis to show the government lied about 9/11. http://www.truthmove.org/content/demolition-wtc-7/ No large steel-frame building has ever collapsed due to fire. The
official explanation given by the government teams is that fire destroyed
both towers and building 7. The damage from the aircraft and debris are
admitted to have played an insignifcant role. The collapse of all three buildings occured in a symmetrical, straight
down fashion, into their own footprint. While dust and debris may have
been ejected outwards, the structures essentially fell in on themselves,
leaving surrounding buildings essentially undamaged.
The buildings collapsed at almost free-fall speed. This means that
each building must have experienced some spontaneous global structural
failure so that there was no resistance or delay in the collapse. The
official “pancake theory” for the towers is untenable because
as upper floors supposedly collapsed onto those below, there would have
been structural resistance. Instead the collapses began almost instantly
and showed no signs of resistance. According to the 9/11 Commission, “The interior core of the
buildings was a hollow steel shaft, in which elevators and stairwells
were grouped” (p. 541). In fact, the core of the towers was actually
a support system of 47 massive steel columns. The commission just ignored
these because their existence conflicted with the official story of spontaneous
global collapse. All three buildings were completely destroyed. The resulting piles
of rubble were only a few stories high and there were no large, structural
pieces left. If you consider the structual engineering strength and redundancy
put into the buildings, it is ridiculous to attribute this result to a
“structural failure” or simple “collapse.” Nearly all the concrete and non-metallic substances in the towers were
pulverized into a fine powder. The gravitational energy of a simple “collapse”
would not have been sufficient to cause this pulverization. Molten Steel was also observed by multiple witnesses at ground zero,
even weeks after 9/11. The energy needed to melt steel would only been
possible through the use of explosives or other foreign, high-energy devices.
Jet fuel and the collapse of the buildings could not have created enough
heat or energy to leave molten steel. Firefighters, initial news reports and other witnesses prominently
reported secondary explosions within the towers. WTC 7 housed the New York offices of the CIA, Secret Service, SEC
(Securities and Exchange Commission), and Rudy Giuliani’s Office
of Emergency Management bunker.
http://911research.wtc7.net
www.911review.com/errors/wtc/index.html
See also the work of Professor Steven Jones at www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html However, the "Scholars for Truth" group originally co-chaired by Jones has a website that promotes nonsensical claims of complicity (including "mini-nukes" destroyed the towers), avoids linking to the best analyses and investigations, and has no academic requirements for participation (it is not a group of "Scholars"). Jim Hoffman's rebuttal to Scientific American hit piece Is There Evidence That Explosive Charges Were Used To Destroy
The World Trade Center Towers? http://emperors-clothes.com/9-11backups/abc911.htm 'ABC News' Special Report:
[note: the bulk of the fire was above the 80th floor, the 78th floor was at the bottom edge of the fire]
In the winter of 2005, the PBS network aired a show called “Building to Extremes” about the new rush to put up even more absurdly tall super-skyscrapers (Taiwan, Malaysia, Shanghai, etc). The show had a segment about the WTC collapses that discussed a 2002 report from Weldlinger Associates that dispensed with the “pancake theory” Instead, they hypothesize that the collapse resulted from the heating of the steel to modest temperatures (steel, according to them, loses half of its load capacity at about 500 degrees centigrade, which is well within the range of temperatures in that inferno), and the loss of critical columns (from the impact of the planes). The engineer in the film claimed that the buildings would have survived the loss of the columns - via the roof truss structure that transfer load from the damaged / destroyed columns to intact columns - if it wasn’t for the fire that heated the steel to the point that it lost some of its structural integrity. Some of the bogus folks on the web claim that without MELTING of the steel there was no chance for the official stories of collapse to be true, but they don’t talk about the reduction of integrity from the heating without melting. In addition, the engineer stated that the South Tower was more unbalanced from the lower hole than the North Tower, which is why it fell first (that is a reasonable claim). Finally, they discussed a smoke analysis that they did from the existing video and still footage that estimated temperatures and spread of the fires to justify their conclusions. The demolition theory does not explain how the demolition charges would have stayed intact during the inferno. Another problem with the demolition theory is that substantial proportions of the structure were destroyed by a high impact collision (and exactly what happened to the core columns is unknown and unknowable without access to the rubble). The "temperature of burning jet fuel was not enough to bring down the towers" is a fake claim, since the chimney effect (blowing air) plus the burning plastics, paper, etc would have increased the temperature considerably over the mere temperature of burning jet fuel. The much stronger Pentagon building had a collapse about a half hour after the plane crash, so the collapse of the towers in roughly the same amount of time is reasonable. (The hoaxers don't claim that the collapse of the outside ring of the Pentagon was demolition -- instead, they claim there wasn't a plane crash even though there was). One anomaly that no one can explain is why the rubble burned for months despite firefighting and rain, but that is not evidence for demolition. Controlled demolition does not result in months long fires. The claims for thermite do not explain this either. Bizarre claims for "nuclear weapons took down the WTC" are also easily dismissed (there are many aspects of the collapse that have no relationship to nuclear detonations). Perhaps the simplest explanatio is the truth -- the burning material was insulated by the pile of skyscraper debris, although A Critical Analysis of the Collapse of WTC Towers 1, 2 &
7 From an Explosives and Conventional Demolition Industry Viewpoint "for explosives to be considered as a primary or supplemental catalyst, one would have to accept that either a) dozens of charges were placed on those exact impact floors in advance and survived the initial violent explosions and 1100+ degree Fahrenheit fires, or b) while the fires were burning, charges were installed undetected throughout the impact floors and wired together, ostensibly by people hiding in the buildings with boxes of explosives. There is no third choice that could adequately explain explosives causing failure at the exact impact points. "The chemical properties of explosives and their reaction to heat render scenario A scientifically impossible and scenario B remarkably unlikely." www.jnani.org/mrking/writings/911/king911.htm www.pbs.org/wnet/innovation/episode1_essay3.html
Floor collapses before the buildings fell "At 9:24, fire rescue received a call from a frightened man who said that the stairway had collapsed on the 105th floor of Tower Two. It would be an omen." - p. 641 "At 9:47, in a nearby office, a woman called fire rescue with an ominous message. The floor underneath her, she said, was beginning to collapse." James Bamford, "Body of Secrets," (2002 update) p. 64 www.representativepress.org/BowingDebunksExplosives.html www.911-strike.com/BazantZhou.htm
(archive) www.ccdominoes.com/lc/lcg3.html www.pbs.org/wnet/innovation/transcript_episode1.html Early investigations after September 11th had concluded that the collapse
was due to a structural weakness -- that the floor trusses failed, causing
the towers to pancake to the ground. But in 2002, the engineering firm
Weidlinger Associates came to a different conclusion. Using computer models
and sophisticated defense department software, they were attempting to
analyze whether the collapse of the south tower contributed to the fall
of the other. Engineer Najib Abboud co-authored the analysis. www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/23/late-nite-fdl-is-the-country-catching-on/ Steel doesn’t have to melt in order for it to fail. The fire from
the jet fuel burned out in five or ten minutes, but the force of the impact
blasted the content of the towers to one side, and ignited it. It was
this fire that led to the structural failure.
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http://cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&investigations:_a_detailed_look=wtcinvestigation
Complete 911 Timeline - World Trade Center Investigation
Some 9/11 skeptics who are convinced that the towers were detonated claim that the fires in the buildings had substantially diminished when they fell down. This claim is not supported by looking at photos of the collapses. The South Tower, which had more fuel spray outside the building from the impact than the North Tower, still had substantial fire underway when it fell. In addition, the South Tower had much more weight over the impact zone than the hole in the North Tower.
Note, also, the South Tower did not fall as symmetrically as the North Tower (on the right in the first picture).
The Collapse of the South Tower (hit second, but fell first)
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note the South Tower is tipping over on top of the entrance
wound caused by Flight 175,
which is evidence against controlled demolition
from Daniel Hopsicker, "Welcome to Terrorland: Mohamed Atta and the 9-11 Cover-up in Florida" (Mad Cow Press, 2004)
"During his questioning by the FBI, Warrick said he learned details of the attack which the Bureau has chosen not to tell the American people. 'The FBI told me that Marwan almost missed the building. Marwan was flying one hundred miles per hour faster than Atta, they said. And that's why he flew into the building deeper and that's why that building came down first, because there was so much fuel deeper into the building." (p. 305)
If true, the extra speed of Flight 175 would probably have caused more damage to the buildings columns (and this theory is probably vindicated by the fact that there is much more of an "exit hole" for the South Tower than for the North Tower.
The North Tower (hit first, fell second)
fire is all the way across the building in these photos (taken after the South Tower collapse)


South Tower collapse
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