9/11 bait
false leads that distract from fruitful investigation
on this page:
- Honey Pots and JFK Truth
- No
Planes: Rumsfeld's "missile" quote
- more
bait for No Plane hit Pentagon hoax
- Pull
It? Was WTC 7 "pulled"?
- Bush
said he saw the first plane
- Fox
TV: no windows on the plane
- Bush's
demolition suggestion
- No
Hijackers on the flight manifestos?
- Government
database of completed flights
Investigators of these sorts of crimes have to contend with numerous
false leads being offered to distract those with the interest and stamina
to stay focused on the details.
"A honey pot, in intelligence jargon, is a tempting source of
information or 'dangle' that is set out to lure intended victims into
a trap. Ultimately the honey pot is violently and maliciously discredited
so as to destroy the credibility of anything stuck to it by association."
-- Michael Ruppert, "Crossing the Rubicon," p. 184
Gaeton Fonzi was an investigator for the House Select Committee on Assassinations,
the only Congressional effort to get toward the truth of what was done
to President Kennedy. Here is his description of how this strategy was
used to reduce his effectiveness:
http://cuban-exile.com/doc_001-025/doc0019a.html
The Last Investigation
by
GAETON FONZI
.... I discovered there are a lot of Cubans in Miami named Julio Fernandez.
There are more than a dozen lawyers named Fernandez. Many Cubans, like
Americans, are commonly known by their middle name, not their first,
and some Cubans are commonly known not by their by father's family name
by their matrinomy. Nevertheless, selecting them by their age and word
of their anti-Castro activism, I spent weeks talking with scores of
Cubans named Julio Fernandez. Schweiker particularly interested in the
Julio Fernandez whose name did turn up in an FBI report buried in the
Warren Commissions' volume of evidence. I finally tracked him
down in upstate New York. He wasn't the Julio Fernandez who had called
Clair Boothe Luce. It wasn't until more than a year later, with the
broadened access to information I had with the House Assassinations
Committee, I discovered that there was no Julio Fernandez who called
Luce. She had simply concocted the name for Schweiker.
What was interesting about the Luce story was that it had a
couple of the characteristics common to so many of the other leads which
were fed to Schweiker and, later, the House Assassinations Committee
and, when checked out, went no where. One such characteristic
was that the leads usually could not be dismissed outright because they
always contained hard kernels of truth mixed in the fluff.
[emphasis added]
| No
Planes: Rumsfeld's "missile" quote |
On October 12, 2001, War Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was the first person
to say that a "missile" hit the Pentagon. The Complete
No Planes on 9/11 Timeline documents that this was probably just bait
to set up the "no plane" hoax. His interview, conducted with
Parade magazine, was followed three years later by an article by the same
reporter who said that this alleged misstatement was what motivated conspiracy
theorists to post this false claim all over the internet.
| more
bait for No Plane hit Pentagon hoax |
from Mike Ruppert:
www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/060706_questions_grave.shtml
Not long before "Loose Change" was released, a recently retired
high-ranking US Naval officer approached me and tried to sell me on
the claim that no plane hit the Pentagon. He even claimed that he had
been inside the Pentagon on 9-11 and had seen no aircraft wreckage.
He kept pushing but could not persuade me, because (as I told him) I
was aware of more than 130 independent, non-military eyewitnesses who
had been traveling on nearby I-395 who swore that they did see an airliner
hit the Pentagon. Having driven on I-395 many times, I know that they
had a perfect view.
My last correspondence with the retired Navy Captain was on May 3rd
and in my message I made it very clear that I would not endorse the
no-plane hypothesis and that I believed "Loose Change" to
be (in impact) a CIA propaganda film, whether by design, trick or device,
or the sheer gullibility of its makers.
On May 16th the Pentagon released what it claims was new video showing
a Boeing 757 striking the building. It was clear that, realizing I would
not fall for the "dangle," the powers that be had decided
that they would discredit the rest of the 9-11 movement who had accepted
"no plane."]
| Pull
It? Was WTC 7 "pulled"? |
The State Department website about World Trade
Center Building 7 verifies how inferential evidence of physical anamolies
are unlikely to accomplish needed political changes. Two discussions about
“physical evidence” and 9/11 complicity are worth reading
to see how their predictions have been shown to be correct.
“The case of 9/11, now being tried in our metaphorical court
of the corporate media and public perception, leaves no doubt as to
who could produce more expert witness testimony or present them in the
most impressive manner. ... It is something else to analyze the temperature
at which steel is weakened and determining whether or not an unproven
amount of burning jet fuel, in unspecified concentrations and unknown
locations could have weakened steel supports in the World Trade Center
to the point where an unspecified amount of weight might cause them
to buckle.
-- Michael Ruppert, Crossing the Rubicon, pp. 13-14
www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/112603_kennedy.html
The Kennedys, Physical Evidence, and 9/11
by Michael C. Ruppert
Most 9/11 skeptics are now familiar with the statement by Larry Silverstein,
who leased the WTC shortly before 9/11, that he decided “pull it”
regarding Building 7 (the building that collapsed but was not hit by a
plane). Some in the 9/11 truth movement made this comment a “smoking
gun” for demolition claims, even though the case for demolition
of WTC 7 was made long before his comment was publicized, most notably
at the website www.wtc7.net
http://wtc7.net/pullit.html
A review of the numerous websites that assert that Silverstein's remark
constituted an admission of demolishing WTC 7 is revealing. Few such
sites note that the physical characteristics of the collapse exactly
match conventional demolitions, or that fires have never before or since
felled steel-framed high-rise buildings -- two facts that constitute
an overwhelming case for the controlled demolition of WTC 7. Instead,
the pull-it controversy seems to have created a distraction, eclipsing
the case for controlled demolition.
“Pull it” is a deliberately ambiguous statement that could
have been a form of bait, and now has been discredited by its utterer,
probably in an effort to discredit its promoters just as the Rumsfeld
“missile” quote was floated and then withdrawn.
The best website that discussed the “pull it” controversy
was by Dutch author Joël v.d. Reijden, who has unfortunately “pulled”
his excellent analysis from the web (he evidently grew tired of the abusive
emails from promoters of the “no planes” hoaxes). Here is
his analysis of “pull it”
http://home.planet.nl/~reijd050/911_my_own_review.htm [no longer on
line]
9/11 – My own review of the entire event.
Apparently Larry Silverstein tries to explain something to us in the
2002 PBS documentary ‘America Rebuilds’:
“I remember getting a call from the, uh, fire department
commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able
to contain the fire, and I said, "You know, we've had such terrible
loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is, is pull it. And they
made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse.”
I mailed Jowenko BV and asked if 'pull' was an industry term for 'demolish'.
They said it wasn't. Implosionworld said the same thing. I run into
the same problem when looking into different dictionaries. There is
always a distinction made between 'pull down', 'pull away' and 'pull
back'. And I have not been able to find one person on the internet who
uses this word as a substitute for 'demolish'. So I think it's safe
to assume that Larry needs to clarify what he meant, but unfortunately
he refuses to do that.
In the same PBS documentary this is said by one of the construction
workers:
"[narrator]The department of design and construction had
leveled World Trade Center buildings 4 and 5...[telephone rings] Hello?...ow,
we're getting ready to pull building six....[The documentary moves
on to the next person] We had to be very careful how we demolished
building six..."
Now, lets see what implosionworld told me:
"There is no such phrase in explo-demo. Most likely he
meant "pull out" as in have people evacuate. Conventionally,
"pull a building" can mean to pre-burn holes in steel beams
near the top floor and affix long cables to heavy machinery, which
then backs up and causes the structure to lean off its center of gravity
and eventually collapse. But this is only possible with buildings
about 6-7 stories or smaller. This activity was performed to bring
down WTC 6 (Customs) after 9/11 because of the danger in demolishing
conventionally."
Of course these companies are not going to adhere to any conspiracy
theories, but they did help in dispelling another possible red herring.
The fact that it is very likely that 7 WTC has been blown up doesn't
change at all, but I wonder why Silverstein made this strange statement
and especially why PBS conveniently put that 'ready to pull building
six' sentence in. Maybe someone is messing with our heads. I
don't know.
and from the same author:
http://home.planet.nl/~reijd050/911_summary.htm
Were there explosives in WTC I, II and/or VII? If I had to guess, I
would say it's likely, but this theory sounds so ridiculous, that we
need more eyewitness accounts and videos. Something that makes me very
uncomfortable is that all the prominent 'researchers' I do not trust
are peddling the explosives-at-the-WTC-theory.
Update: General Benton K. Partin doesn't seem to agree with this theory.
Read that article here
[note: retired General Partin publicized his beliefs that the 1995 Oklahoma
City bombing involved multiple explosions, and therefore was more than
merely a crime involving just Tim McVeigh]
It is hard to say whether the Silverstein "pull it" quote is
(1) bait, (2) boasting or (3) greatly misinterpreted. Any attorney or
public relations representative would state that the context is "the
firefighter team had such a terrible loss of life, so therefore they made
the decision to pull it (the firefighters)."
The State Department discussion of “pull it” shows that
this prediction has been verified.
In September 2005, Silverstein's office issued a "clarification"
that shows the futility of relying on this sort of "evidence"
to make political change.
http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Sep/16-241966.html
The Collapse of World Trade Center 7
Allegation: 9/11 Revealed suggests that the 47-story World Trade
Center 7 building, which collapsed at 5:20 pm on September 11, was intentionally
demolished. The primary piece of evidence for this is a comment
that Mr. Larry Silverstein, who owned the World Trade Center complex,
made on the September 2002 television documentary American Rebuilds.
Mr. Silverstein said:
I remember getting a call from the Fire Department commander, telling
me they were not sure they were going to be able to contain the fire.
I said, you know, “We've had such terrible loss of life that
the smartest thing to do is just pull it.” And they made
that decision to pull it and we watched the [World Trade Center 7]
building collapse.
9/11 Revealed and other conspiracy theorists put forward the notion
that Mr. Silverstein’s suggestion to “pull it” is
slang for intentionally demolishing the WTC 7 building.
Facts: On September 9, 2005, Mr. Dara McQuillan, a spokesman for
Silverstein Properties, issued the following statement on this issue:
Seven World Trade Center collapsed at 5:20 p.m. on September 11,
2001, after burning for seven hours. There were no casualties, thanks
to the heroism of the Fire Department and the work of Silverstein
Properties employees who evacuated tenants from the building.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) conducted a thorough
investigation of the collapse of all the World Trade Center buildings.
The FEMA report concluded that the collapse of Seven World Trade Center
was a direct result of fires triggered by debris from the collapse
of WTC Tower 1.
In the afternoon of September 11, Mr. Silverstein spoke to the Fire
Department Commander on site at Seven World Trade Center. The
Commander told Mr. Silverstein that there were several firefighters
in the building working to contain the fires. Mr. Silverstein
expressed his view that the most important thing was to protect the
safety of those firefighters, including, if necessary, to have them
withdraw from the building.
Later in the day, the Fire Commander ordered his firefighters out
of the building and at 5:20 p.m. the building collapsed. No
lives were lost at Seven World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.
As noted above, when Mr. Silverstein was recounting these events for
a television documentary he stated, “I said, you know, we've had
such terrible loss of life. Maybe the smartest thing to do is
to pull it.” Mr. McQuillan has stated that by “it,”
Mr. Silverstein meant the contingent of firefighters remaining in the
building.
another debunking of "Pull It"
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/2007/02/tales-of-911-truthiness.html
FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 02, 2007
Tales of 9/11 Truthiness
| Bush
said he saw the first plane |
George W. Bush reported after 9/11 that he had seen the first plane hit
the WTC, thinking that it was an accident caused by a "terrible pilot."
This astounding comment is one of those seemingly incriminating pieces
of evidence that doesn't go anywhere.
If Bush was confused, which is plausible, then his garbling of the timeline
of his behavior that morning means nothing (other than his incoherence,
which the world already knows about).
If Bush was telling the truth, then the White House was monitoring the
situation before the first plane crash and that would be proof of damning foreknowledge.
Unfortunately, even if this facet of the story is true it cannot be proven without
some sort of insider revelation or Congressional subpeona. There's already sufficient
knowledge that there were extensive warnings that the attacks were coming and that
the Secret Service did not follow standard operating
procedures to protect Bush while he was in the elementary school reading
to second graders.
| Fox
TV: no windows on the plane |
In Plane Site, the first major "no
plane" film, floated the idea that the plane that hit the South Tower
did not have windows, and therefore was a substitute for the actual hijacked
plane (Flight 175) and therefore some sort of plane swapping happened
proving 9/11 was an inside job. This allegation - of no windows - was
supposedly made by a reporter for Fox TV, the ultra-right wing government
propaganda network, who was allegedly in Brooklyn (ie. not close by) when
the crash happened.
The "no windows" nonsense was given a prominent debunking in
the famous March 2005 Popular Mechanics
attack, further discrediting the various strawmen arguments floated by
In Plane Site (and by association, the rest of the 9/11 truth movement).
Popular Mechanics even had the gall to claim that this was "one of
the most widely referenced 9/11 conspiracy theories" even though
it was solely sourced to "In Plane Site" and a few of its fans
(or co-conspirators). Of the mix of fake and real claims trashed in Popular
Mechanics, this one was probably the most obscure, not the most widespread.
Skeptical minds were not surprised to read that Fox TV denounced this
claim as nonsense or that some gullible people wanted to believe that
THIS TIME Fox TV was a trustworthy witness to the truth. It would be surprising
if the "no window" claim was not invented in order to discredit
it later.
It is hard to prove the motivation of those who made this film, but the
motivation of Fox television seems transparent. It is similar to a Fox
affiliate highlighting the Loose Change
no-plane film while ignoring credible investigations.
| Bush's
demolition suggestion |
www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060915-2.html
"For example, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed described the design of planned
attacks of buildings inside the U.S. and how operatives were directed
to carry them out."
"That is valuable information for those of us who have the responsibility
to protect the American people. He told us the operatives had been instructed
to ensure that the explosives went off at a high -- a point that was high
enough to prevent people trapped above from escaping."
http://rigint.blogspot.com/2006/09/secret-agent-man.html
Saturday, September 16, 2006
Secret Agent Man
There's a man who leads a life of danger
To everyone he meets he stays a stranger
Parsing the statements of George Bush is of course handicapped by
the man's uncommon illiteracy, though when he sticks to his prepared
texts we can get some indication of what his keepers want us to hear,
even if Bush himself doesn't know what he's saying. Take, for one bizarre
instance, the opening remarks to his Rose Garden news conference last
Friday.
In defence of torture and secret prisons he boasted of the "valuable
information" obtained by the CIA from waterboarding "men like
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed" (whose telephone conversations with Mohammed
Atta, including final approval for the attacks on September 10, are
known to have been monitored and translated by the NSA, but apparently
not acted upon).
Much like Atta's unacknowledged Florida life of strippers, booze and
cocaine, the supposed mastermind of September 11 was a high-living womanizer
who loved clubbing and lavish hotels, and who once impressed a girlfriend
by flying a helicopter past her office window trailing a banner that
read "I love you."
There remains the mystery of his arrest, which even today can only be
called an alleged arrest, not least because he was confidently reported
killed in a shootout on 9/11's first anniversary. ("Now it has
emerged that Kuwaiti national Khalid Shaikh Mohammed did indeed perish
in the raid," said Asia Times.)
A witness present in the house when Khalid was said to have finally
been seized was adament that "the only people in the house were
my brother, his wife and their kids.... I have absolutely no idea why
the police came here." For The Guardian, Isobel Hilton wrote that
in Pakistan, the story of his arrest "appears to be almost entirely
fictional." And there's the famous photo of Khalid, fat and unshaven
against a wall of peeling paint. But according to The Sunday Times a
"thorough search of the house shows there is no such wall."
To allay doubts of Khalid's capture, Pakistan's ISI held a first-ever
press briefing and screened a laughable eight minutes of footage purportedly
taken during the raid. "Broken doors, blood-stained walls and wrists
in handcuffs were all shown but curiously, no face shots...not even
the well publicized 'arrest' photo of Mohammed that has been widely
circulated and questioned. When one CNN reporter, Tom Minter asked why,
the ISI said the tape had been edited but that the actual footage did
record his face but had been edited out for the presentation."
Pakistani intelligence had its own good reasons to attempt deception
as, like 9/11 paymaster Omar Saeed Sheikh, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was
not only an al Qaeda commander but also an ISI operative. Which is why
both men wanted Daniel Pearl dead.
If Khalid actually is in custody, he has remained out-of-sight from
all but his CIA minders. The Kean Commission relied heavily upon Khalid's
account of 9/11 to construct their own story - he's mentioned in 272
paragraphs of the report - but no commission representative was permitted
to meet him or take his testimony: there is no corroboration that the
account given was actually his own. The commission supplied questions
to his captors, and his captors returned transcripts of interrogations
that allegedly contained Khalid's answers. Its claim of authenticity
rests solely upon the goodwill of the Agency.
But back to Bush and his Friday remarks:
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed described the design of planned attacks of buildings
inside the U.S. and how operatives were directed to carry them out.
That is valuable information for those of us who have the responsibility
to protect the American people. He told us the operatives had been instructed
to ensure that the explosives went off at a high -- a point that was
high enough to prevent people trapped above from escaping.
Even allowing for the bell curve of his usual nonsense, what sense does
this make?
The Guardian transcript has Bush saying that Khalid "described
the design of plane attacks," rather than the official "planned
attacks." The video, available from the White House website, confirms
"planned." Perhaps the Guardian couldn't quite believe what
it was hearing. Because Bush went on to say that the operatives of the
planned attacks were instructed in the placement of explosives. Adding,
as though it's the clearest thing in the world, that Khalid disclosed
the explosives were to detonate at "a point high enough to prevent
people trapped above from escaping."
Before we rush to judgement, believing Bush is letting it slip that
the towers were demolished, watch the video. Bush isn't riffing here;
he isn't straying from the prepared text. His remarks were crafted with
care. So why would he be given such lines, which could so easily be
construed by 9/11 skeptics as an inadvertant admission of controlled
demolition? Perhaps because, as I believe was Rumsfeld's intention when
he "misspoke" of a "missile" striking the Pentagon
the very week Thierry Meyssan launched his "no plane" website,
that's precisely where they want our attention, whether or not demolition
is a fact. (And it will only be our attention, as the corporate press
either don't have the ears or the stomach for it.)
So here's the scene: the White House invoking invisible man Khalid Sheikh
Mohammed to excite our imagination with an oddly-worded statement strongly
suggestive of demolition, when our attention would be better rewarded
by considering Khalid himself, his service to the ISI and the ISI's
service to US intelligence. But Bush will never be written the words
to encourage such thoughts.
| No
Hijackers on the flight manifestos? |
The only thing that a flight manifesto lacking the (ostensible) names
of the hijackers proves is that airlines are willing to cooperate with
the government to keep names off of a list. And most of the lists released by the airlines were of VICTIMS, so presumably the airlines and government do not consider the hijackers to have been victims.
| Government
database of completed flights |
A few "researchers" promoting "no planes" and similar
debunked claims also state that a Department of Transportation database
does not list the 9/11 flights. Since this is a database of completed
flights, it does not make sense to include those four doomed flights in
it. Entries on a computer do not necessarily correlate to reality. (Some
of the people promoting this story also claim that some of the crashed
planes are still in service despite the fact that the black
boxes were found at all three crash sites.) |