MUJCA: Kevin Barrett
Muslim Jewish Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth:
Holocaust Denial and a State Department grant
on this page:
- My (epic) Struggle
- MUJCA / Scholars for Truthiness August 2007 hoax conference in Madison, WI
- MUJCA makes violent threats against the media
- media coverage of MUJCA's Holocaust denial
- MUJCA creative fiction writing
- June 2006 smear against From the Wilderness
- a State Department grant for its founder
- MUJCA's famous Holocaust denial e-mail
- 9/11 Scholars for Truthiness
- No Planes and No Gas Chambers: Holocaust denial infiltrates the 9/11 truth movement
- American Free Press / Barnes Review says Hitler deserved Nobel Peace Prize, creates hoaxes for 9/11 "truth" movement
- Lessons from the Holocaust
- The Reichstag Fire February 27, 1933 (and the parallels with 9/11)
- Bush family and the Nazis
- Not See's and Nazis: Denial about 9/11 and about the Holocaust (from its victims)
- US State Department promotes Holocaust denier David Irving as a credible source to bait the peace movement
- Israel and Palestine: two states, one state or apartheid
- Nuremberg Tribunal
- Genocide Convention
My (epic) Struggle
At 05 March, 2007 10:17, Alex said...
Why does he need to make it "Epic". As far as I can tell it should just be "My Struggle".
Because then it'd be kinda hard to market in German.
At least this way it translates to "Mein Epischer Kampf".
MUJCA - Madison, Wisconsin hoax conference
note: this "conference" included promotion of the idea that planes did not actually hit the World Trade Center and fake video was simultaneously inserted into all of the television networks that day (since countless cameras recorded the strike of Flight 175, the second plane, when it hit the South Tower at 9:03 am). It may be the most delusional claim masquerading as 9/11 truth, and hopefully none of its promoters actually believe it.
the "MUJCA" group has lost credibility among many 9/11 activists as a result of this, one example is at
July 28, 2007 at 09:11:23
Mounting Evidence of 9/11 Video Fakery: New proof of media duplicity, Scholars claim
by James Fetzer
New studies of media coverage of the attacks on the Twin Towers have raised serious questions about the integrity of television broadcasts over CNN, CBS and FOX NEWS, according to Scholars for 9/11 Truth, a non-partisan society of students, experts, and scholars. "I used to think that the very idea of faking 'live' broadcasts was at least faintly absurd," observed James Fetzer, the society's founder. "But it turns out that there is a delay between an event's actual occurrence and the broadcasting of footage of that same event, which creates the opportunity for image manipulation."
Kevin Barrett, the founder of MUJCA and a member of Scholars, reports he is troubled by these new studies. "I guess I'll have to take this possibility more seriously now," Barrett said. "In the past, I have assumed video fakery was far-fetched and that anyone who endorsed it was probably a crackpot! Now I'm not so sure."
Ace Baker mentions a group long convinced of video fakery, including Gerard Holmgren, Rosalee Grable, StillDiggin, Killtown, and others, who have been frustrated their arguments have not been taken seriously. "For that reason, I'm including this subject in a conference on 'The Science and the Politics of 9/11: What's Controversial, What's Not,' which will be held in Madison on August 3-5, 2007 ( 911scholars.org)," Fetzer said. "We are going do our best to get to the bottom of this. Truth about 9/11 is stranger than fiction."
The conference is here -
MUJCA makes violent threats against the media
The MUJCA website includes this plea:
Please Support MUJCA-NET MUJCA-NET needs your support. We are a non-profit organization and the scale of our activities depends entirely on your generosity. We would like to get copies of David Griffin's two 9/11 books (see above) into the hands of every religious leader in America. And we would like to push 9/11 truth onto the front pages of every newspaper in America. But we can't do it without your help. If you would like to donate to MUJCA-NET, click here.
However, it unlikely that MUJCA will be able to push anything onto "the front pages of every newspaper," since MUJCA also states:
anybody who has drawn a paycheck from the major mainstream journalistic outlets in the past should be up on the scaffold for the crimes of high treason and crimes against humanity.
-- Kevin Barrett
It is reasonable to assume the threats against the media from MUJCA were made by an agent provocateur whose job is to discredit the 9/11 truth movement and ensure that the media will not dare look closer at the best evidence of complicity. But if this assumption is wrong, and these threats of violent attacks are not your tax dollars at work, then it is mental illness. Whatever the truth of MUJCA's motivation, it serves the interest of the cover-up to provide an easy straw man to suggest the truth movement is only a group of paranoid, dangerous idiots.
thanks to the blogger "Arabesque" for compiling this list
OilEmpire.US does not advocate violence against anyone and opposes the death penalty, even for war criminals. A sane, sustainable, peaceful world needs to abolish institutional violence at all levels.
August 26, 2007 version
Some activists have also commented on a pattern of public statements by Barrett suggestive of violence toward reporters and journalists, such as, "journalists who act as propagandists for war crimes may one day find themselves on the scaffold," and "anybody who has drawn a paycheck from the major mainstream journalistic outlets in the past should be up on the scaffold for the crimes of high treason and crimes against humanity."
Kevin Barrett: "I am not a hardcore nonviolence activist" (4 posts)
Kevin Barrett: "I am not a hardcore nonviolence activist" http://www.911blogger.com/node/10835
He's not kidding.
[all quotes below from Mr. Barrett]
As I understand it, the usual penalty for treason is hanging, not death by firing squad. In that case, it is likely that Mr. Bush will be hanged, not shot, for treason. By making this prediction, am I running the risk of having my clothesline confiscated? I also think that there is a real possibility that Mr. Bush will be electrocuted for the mass murder of 2,500 Americans in the World Trade Center. By stating this, am I risking a court order shutting off my electricity? I also foresee a small but very real possibility that Mr. Bush will die in the gas chamber. Does raising this possibility mean that my gas could be cut off? http://www.dailytakes.com/?p=825
As the example of Nuremburg suggests, journalists who act as propagandists for war crimes may one day find themselves on the scaffold. You would be well advised to strive for more balanced and accurate coverage in the future. http://www.mujca.com/popper.htm
Amy [Goodman], you will one day find yourself on the scaffold, condemned to hang alongside the other Goebbels-style traitors and mass-murder-coverup-conspirators from the corporate media you pretend to criticize. http://www.mujca.com/amy.htm
The State Department doesn’t know what it is talking about, but what else is new? Frankly I wonder who wrote this for the State Department. We need to find out because they are going to have to go up there on the scaffold with the other people who planned the attacks and more importantly the people who covered them up. The people complicit in the attacks need to be tried, condemned and sentenced. http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/06/more-on-kevin-hang-em-all-barrett.html
First Kevin Barrett said that Fox News employees should be hung. Then he said that the producers of [the movie] United 93 should be tried for inciting war crimes, now he is expanding his list of those on death row to include just about every journalist in the world, while discussing an e-mail exchange he had with a journalist for Harper’s Magazine:
"My response to that was, you know, I think that anybody who has drawn a paycheck from the major mainstream journalistic outlets in the past should be up on the scaffold for the crimes of high treason and crimes against humanity. http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/05/kevin-barrett-calls-for-mass-execution.html
"If you are not aware that you're covering up for that traitor and mass murderer and yes insurance fraudster Silverstein, you'll figure it out when you're beside him on the scaffold. I'll be saving this email as evidence for your trial." http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/semiliterateparanoiacswhofantasizeaboutt
OCTOBER 1, 2007
9/11 Truth: Dialog, False Adversaries, and Civility
In my opinion, these comments are antithetical to the possibility of dialog. Is it necessary to make these statements against journalists and defenders of the official story? How can this approach open others to considering the possibility of 9/11 truth? Indeed, why should it be necessary to make statements such as these when the truth about 9/11 is a powerful enough message?
Professor Althouse of University of Wisconsin writes about strange harassment by Mr. Barrett.
Kevin Barrett, Supercreepafragalisticparanoidatrocious
another website archiving threats from Mr. Barrett against those he disagrees with
why there probably aren't any Jews in MUJCA
a comment from a "Truth Move" commentor worth reading:
Why does both MUJCA and NY911Truth feature a blatant anti-semite on their sites?
Front page on ny911truth -
A Dawning Dictatorship? By Captain Eric H. May - Special Military Correspondent 8/6/07 http://www.ny911truth.org/
And MUJCA hosts Captain Eric May on quite a few pages . . .
http://www.mujca.com/captain.htm http://www.mujca.com/defazio.htm http://www.mujca.com/usmilitary.htm etc. ( a google search returns 14 entries)
He sounds reasonable enough on these pages, but apparently no one has read a single other thing the supposed "former" intelligence Captain speculating about numerology has written. One would imagine that the Jewish members of the Muslim Christian Jewish Alliance might take offense, but apparently they haven't noticed either.
Here's what Captain Eric May is saying everyplace else:
"In this case it is the controlled media, who use Jewish Cabalism, and the "Bush Boyz" (criminal officials and agents), who use Masonic coding, and they're reporting their handiwork in the Great Plains! . . . I wonder why the Jewish film industry would make a mistake like that, rewriting the plot of reality to convince us -- with a powerful movie -- not to obsess about the prospect of embedded code in the mainstream Jewish news media?"
The simple fact is that these deaths were repressed by a Zionist-dominated professional group, and who can blame me and mine if we make the politically incorrect, but factually correct, point that Jews covered up Christian deaths?
In the background, the coldest fear of all Jews: their Zionist leaders have manipulated, coaxed and cajoled the Christian mass into something primordial, dreadful and uncontrollable that has turned on the Jews time and time again throughout history, always asserting that all the frustrations, failures and defeats are due to evil Jews. They remember -- or should remember, if they are wise -- that their cerebral superiority to the fanatical folk is most tenuous, and that from being those who call the program to those who suffer the pogrom is their recurrent historic nightmare. . . . It's we moderates, anti-Zionists though not antisemites, who will eventually be swept away by primordial forces, after being labeled compromisers and cowards for obeying the dictates of conscience and Constitution.
note: the "Adelaide Institute" is the main neo-Nazi Holocaust denial organization in Australia.
media coverage of MUJCA's Holocaust denial
February 13, 2007
Moonbattery acid: 9/11-denier Kevin Barrett, the Chandler Conference and the Holocaust
worth reading even though the authors confuse the kookiness of some of the 9/11 truth movement with a denial that there is any evidence for allowing 9/11 to happen
Monday, February 19, 2007
First They Ignore You, Then They Laugh At You, Then They Fight You...
article about Barrett promoting extremely racist website in his newsletter
MUJCA creative fiction writing
"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor." (Exodus 16)
one of the quotes at the top of the MUJCA website
Subject: Re: MUJCA is a mix of real and nonsense
Date: October 26, 2006 6:07 AM : Oct 26
Great to hear from you, Camilla!
Sure, I'd love to come to Oregon.
"Kind of" ?! Mark is a complete, utter and absolute troll! He's the biggest pest and most unpleasant personality among 9/11 skeptics this side of Nico Haupt. In fact, he's pretty much the West Coast Nico. I've heard stories from people who were stuck on the same train with him between Oregon and SF and wanted to bail out at 60 m.p.h.!
I'm kind of getting it from both sides on this Jewish/Zionist thing...below is the link to a radio show that Mark might want to listen to. Will attach the whole Badger Herald editorial in case you're interested.
Anyway I'd love to do a talk in Oregon. "Why Is Mark R Such A Troll?" might be a good title...
That way Mark could organize a protest and drum up lots of publicity -- he'd be great in the Steve Nass role! What do you say, Mark?
(the only true piece in that email is I have taken a train a few times, although the "60 mph bail" is about as accurate as the WTC Hologram theory - as just as nuts)
It's not surprising that someone who promotes the writings of Holocaust deniers as worthy of serious consideration and promotes "no planes" on 9/11 would write such trash. It is certainly not the quality of research that gets one hired as a university professor and given a State Department Fulbright Grant, assuming that the divisive slander and promoting racism and disinformation is not actually the antics of an agent provocateur.
June 2006 smear against From the Wilderness
Begin forwarded message:
Left to right: MUJCA supporter Craig Robinson, MUJCA coordinator Kevin Barrett, and rabble-rouser Alex Jones take 9/11 truth out of the internet and into the streets
Signs of the times:
1) 9/11 truth takes Chicago:http://mujca.com/chicagostory.htm
2) New York Times covers 9/11 truth movement (an extremely positive development, despite the silly article); MUJCA Coordinator responds:
"The bemused, borderline-patronizing tone of your article, given the ongoing implosion of the Times’ credibility as our nation’s newspaper of record, conjures up the image of someone saying 'what a cute, amusing little kitty' as he approaches a man-eating tiger. It is time for the Times to ride the tiger and restore its credibility, by launching the biggest investigative effort in journalistic history and exposing the truth of 9/11."
3) MUJCA Coordinator Kevin Barrett says: Stick 9/11 truth stickers on Every NY Times Vending Machine in the Nation!
and target your local paper too if they're part of the 9/11 truth blackout.
(Note: MUJCA-NET does not endorse vandalism...but Kevin damn well does!!)
4) The story we've all been waiting for:
VICTORY MARKS IGNOMINIOUS END TO 9/11 TRUTH MOVEMENT
As Sad As It Was Predictable
Regime Change in Washington, DC Marks the End of a Sequential and Planned Campaign to Discredit Only Authentic 9/11 Research--Mine
Michael C. Duppert and Jamey Heck
© Copyright 2006, From The Bilderbergs Publications, www.fromthebilderbergs.com. All Rights Reserved. This story MAY be posted on any Internet web site without express written permission. Contact email@example.com. May be circulated, distributed or transmitted for my-profit purposes only.
June 7th 2006, 1:28pm [PST] – “Ignominious” is the only word that comes to mind as I try to describe the horrible feeling of watching the 9/11 truth movement triumph without me. The recent arrests of Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Gen. Richard Meyers, Larry Silverstein, Rudy Guliani and others for high treason are utterly meaningless because I, Mike Duppert, did not get the credit I deserved. Worse, it appears that the apocalyptic meltdown of the US economy that I predicted by spring, 2006 has not happened, and I am living in a cave in Oregon--with Mark Rabinowitz, no less--for no particular reason. Some people might think being stuck in a cave with Mark forever would boggle Dante's imagination--but actually I think Mark's kind of cute. Note: Contact Osama and Hummux for cave-decorating tips.
The war-crimes trials in Washington, D.C. are clearly a disinformation campaign, spun by PROMIS-software-wielding conspirators, to discredit my masterpiece Glossing the Rube Icon. In that book, I proved once and for all that it doesn't matter whether top US officials blew up the Twin Towers and WTC-7 and murdered almost 3,000 people, nor whether there is something very wrong with the official account of the flights, especially Flight 77. I proved that there is only one thing that matters: ME! Yet the prosecutors are ignoring me and charging Cheney and company with blowing up the WTC and faking the Pentagon hit. They're ignoring all my cool stuff on PROMIS, Mike Vreeland, and futuristic biological warfare scenarios, and charging those guys with the boring old crimes of mass murder and high treason.
It's all the fault of that stupid 9/11 truth movement--those guys just didn't know when to quit. When my book came out and I said, "Okay, that's it--forget about 9/11 truth from now on," only five or ten percent of the population had even heard of us, and Bush's numbers were above 50%. But because those 9/11 truth freaks just kept on keeping on, the numbers grew and grew, the Bush regime became the most loathed administration in history, and public pressure finally forced the 9/11 story into the media, bit by bit. I did everything I could to discourage them, but they didn't listen to me. What assholes! Now that they've won without me, I hope they realize that it's all part of the great conspiracy--against me, Mike Duppert. Just wait till peak oil gets them, ha ha ha. I'll be sitting pretty in this cave, smoking bat guano with Mark Rabinowitz and dreaming about how Mark and I, together, will repopulate the world.
note: this smear was written in response to an article in From the Wilderness that detailed the timeline of the "no pentagon plane crash" hoax and how the New York Times smeared the "truth movement" conference in Chicago, focusing on falsehoods and distortion in an all too predictable pattern of media focus on the weak points of the movement. Shortly after this smear against FTW, person(s) unknown smashed the office computers of FTW.
Fact checking and peer review of claims is difficult at best in the "truth movement," since there are those who have staked their credibility on the most important false claim (no pentagon plane) and others who stir the pot deliberately to keep fact checking from happening (preferring personal attacks, smears, etc to distract and alienate).
Ruppert's research has been smeared, but rarely disproved. In the early days after 9/11, it was The Nation, Norman Solomon and their colleagues who attacked. Since Crossing the Rubicon was published, it has been the "no planers" who have smeared - but never do they touch the factual details, which suggests it's just a psyop campaign.
a State Department grant
... Anyone who takes foundation money is on the CIA payroll. The foundation-funded “left” magazines, radio shows, and organizations are CIA propaganda outlets. It really IS that simple.
Note: the "founder" of this alliance received a Fulbright grant (which is money from the US State Department) for his work.
Kevin returns to Madison this semester after spending the past year in Morocco conducting dissertation research on a Fulbright 11-E fellowship. His research centered on the topic of "Sufism and the supernatural image: a comparison of narrative genres including hagiography, personal experience narrative, oral tale and legend, and written legend." He was also awarded a Dissertator Fellowship for Spring 2001.
Sponsored by the United States Department of State, the Fulbright Program provides funding for students, scholars, and professionals to undertake graduate study, advanced research, university teaching, and teaching in elementary, and secondary schools.
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MUJCA's Holocaust denial e-mail
Holocaust Denial nonsense sent from the alleged Muslim-Jewish-Christian alliance promoting a mix of real and false claims for 9/11 complicity (MUJCA promotes "no plane hit Pentagon" and "Loose Change").
To repeat, Israel's genocides and violent policies do not justify support for whitewashing the Nazi Holocaust.
It is unlikely that any Jewish people are involved in this organization, since even militant Jewish supporters of Palestinian rights, anti-Zionist peace activists (in the US, Israel or anywhere else) have no patience for neo-Nazi whitewashing of the Holocaust, one of the great crimes in human history. It is sad that we live in such an irrational time when childish taunts are seen as politics - this is one of the types of dysfunction that has kept opposition to empire divided and ineffective.
Mr. Barrett has claimed this hate speech was merely sent to annoy -- which it certainly does (a counterproductive way to gain credibility for an organization promoting extremely controversial opinions, if the group's intentions are sincere). Perhaps next he will send KKK literature to African Americans whose political views he disagrees with.
This material suggests that there are not actually any Jews in the alleged Muslim-Jewish-Christian alliance. While the Jewish community, like any other religious group, has a wide range of views on Israeli behaviors (ranging from support for the occupation to solidarity with the Palestinians), it is likely there are not any Jews anywhere who would support spamming the internet with Holocaust denial disinformation.
Begin forwarded message:
From: Khidria <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: December 14, 2005 11:08 AM : Dec 14
To: Mark Robinowitz
Subject: Fwd: Holocaust Fundamentalism - You WILL Believe--By Mark Green
However one feels about Green's perspective, and whatever the facts about
WWII, it seems tragic that systematic Zionist Big Lies (we just want a
homeland, not our own state; the Arabs started it; it was a land without
people for a people without land; the Germans hated Jews for no reason
whatsoever, just like the Arabs do now; the Palestinians left voluntarily
in 1948 under orders of the Nazi Mufti of Jerusalem; most of the so-called
Palestinians were not really from Palestine; the Arabs started the 1967
war; allegations of disproportionate Jewish influence in the American
academic, media and financial sectors are false and anti-Semitic; the
attack on the Liberty was a mistake; the Iraq war is about democracy or
Saddam or US security or Peak Oil or anything except Israel, etc. etc.)
have cast legitimate doubt upon ANYTHING Jews say about Jews and their
recent history, including the Holocaust. As a rational person who is not
a specialist in the subject of WWII, but who has studied the history of
Zionist Big Lies vis-a-vis Palestine, I cannot possibly dismiss
the arguments of people like Green, Irving, and even Zundel. And even if the 6-million-deliberately-murdered-for-purely-ethnic-reasons
figure is correct--which it very well may be; I have grown agnostic on
that after studying the Big Lies of Zionism-- I would still have to characterize
the Holocaust as it is taught in the US as a hideously destructive myth.
(A myth is a sacred, worldview-inaugurating story its users believe to
The upshot: nobody in the debate should be boycotted or vilified; nobody should be arrested for expressing honestly-held opinions; all voices should be heard; and the destructive myths and mind-numbing censorship imposed by Zionism must be swept clean so an honest assessment of history can emerge--at which point the Holocaust revisionists may very well be proven incorrect. And even if they are, they obviously should not be harassed or vilified, much less jailed!!
In the meantime, voices like Green and AFPN should be heard and subjected to rational criticism, not vilified or silenced. And the use of state power to enforce Holocaust Fundamentalism must end!
Begin forwarded message:
Subject: Re: Holocaust Fundamentalism - You WILL Believe--By Mark Green
Dear Mr. Green,
I read with great interest your essay "Holocaust Fundamentalism - You WILL Believe" just now, and am eager to forward it to Ghost Troop, my associates (military veterans and civilian supporters). We have come to be astute in the importance of body-count numbers to political purposes, and aren't a bit surprised to find that thoughtful men like you are questioning "official reality" in the Holocaust.
We are specifically rooted in the matter of the current Zionist Media efforts to keep the real number of US dead GI's covered up in the Middle East. The same forces that want to exagerate the suffering of the Jews on the one hand want to minimize the suffering of the Christian Army they have duped into killing Moslems.
Candidly, the factor of "5" seems to be about right for the minimization of death in the case of Iraq -- that's my professional judgement as a former Army officer (military intelligence and public affairs). The real count of dead GI's isn't around 2,000, it's around 10,000; the real count of dead Iraqis isn't 30,000 (which is Boy George's latest lie), it's around 150,000.
[note: several neo-Nazi "news" sources have floated the first claim of 10,000 dead US soldiers. While it's probably true that 150,000 is closer to the real count of dead Iraqis - if not more - the US figure is almost certainly close to the official count, since the odds that 80% of the family members of the dead US soldiers would be comfortable with their loved ones not being on an official list are extremely low. It seems like more "bait" to get peace activists to discredit their positions.]
If you told me you thought you found an exaggeration factor of "5" (in the Holocaust), I'd just say it matched the minimization factor of five (in the Middle Eastern War).
You can read about us and our mission in a recent press release, which documents our conclusive case of a Zionist Media cover up, the Battle of Baghdad Cover Up (BOBCUP), in which they buried the truth of a bloody fight under the distraction of Private Jessica Lynch: http://www.nationalvanguard.org/printer.php?id=6479
[note: a white supremacist publication]
We believe that the truth of matters like BOBCUP will ultimately bring down the plotters whose only advantage is the abiltiy to invent lies and limit investigation of those lies.
Please pass the word about Ghost Troop along. We have had over 3 million hits on our publications in our thirty months of operations, and our name has spread. We took on the name to haunt the traitors who continue to betray their country and the memory of its dead sons and daughters -- and it is working.
Best regards, and good luck with your scholarship!
Captain May / Ghost Troop
Holocaust Fundamentalism -
You WILL Believe
By Mark Green
Dec. 3, 2005
You've seen the films. You've read the books. You've taken the courses.
You've heard the news. Soon, your children will be visiting the museums.
Everybody knows it's true.
The era of mandatory belief in The Holocaust has arrived. Articles central
to The Faith include unwavering commitment to Jewish casualty numbers with a
full and complete understanding of the manner in which innocent Jews were
gassed, murdered and executed in Nazi Germany. Recalcitrant non-believers are now
being rounded up. The typical rhetoric goes: "these bigots deny the facts and
lessons garnered from humankind's experience during WWII. Their unique kind
of poison will not be tolerated. This is a democracy. You are under arrest."
Only this is not a movie. This is real.
In Europe and North America, Holocaust skeptics are being apprehended,
arrested and are now facing lengthy prison terms. Few people have noticed.
Nobody's supposed to care. Big media certainly doesn't. Nor the politicians. These
Holocaust-denying apostates include British author and historian David
Irving, Holocaust revisionist Ernst Zundel, German chemist Gemar Rudolf, and others.
Their crimes involve disbelief: they dispute the official version of events
involving Jews during WWII.
[note: their crimes are actually promoting Nazi propaganda - the equivalent of burning a cross in front of someone's home.]
In an era where nearly anything goes, why does the truth need special laws to
protect it? Curious, that.
Beginning Jan. 27, 2006, and continuing every year thereafter, the United
Nations will inaugurate its first annual Holocaust Remembrance Day. This
Israeli-sponsored resolution not only institutionalizes and broadens global
sensitivity to The Holocaust, but it will surely aid in prosecuting individuals who
reject official Holocaust dogma. The State Church has arrived. It's creed:
Question: to what extent do these escalating measures have more than nothing
to do with America's "special relationship" with the Jewish State, our war in
Iraq, and our saber-rattling towards Syria and Iran? Just curious.
Resistance to the global New Doctrine however is growing. Among the
Laws regulating 'historical interpretation' are themselves a crime. Take
your Thought Control laws and shove it.
Primary question: How many Jews died (and how many were deliberately killed)
during WWII? How do we know?
In how many Western Democracies is doubting the "correct number " of Jewish
victims during WWII now against the law? (seven)
It's known that after the second world war, the Red Cross put the number of
Jewish deaths at considerably less than one million. That's still a lot of
dead people. Yes, it is theoretically possible that 6,000,000 Jews were killed
during the war, but--forgive me--I sense a bold exaggeration.
[note: a casual look at the pre-war and post-war population levels in Europe will confirm that this is not an exaggeration]
But aside from that, since when is skepticism a crime? Where are the
for instance? May I have a list of names, please?
[no genocide has a complete list of the names of all of the dead. Hiroshima, Cambodia, Rwanda and many more lack complete lists of all of the victims.]
Even the Yard Vashem Holocaust Museum in Israel, after 60 years, can
muster three million names, and many of those names are of Jews who merely died (
or disappeared) during WWII, causes unknown. Many names appear more than
once. In a similar vein, while the number of Jews murdered at Auschwitz was
officially reduced by millions in recent years, the irreducible number of "six
million Jews" remains. Isn't it possible that there's some politically-motivated
[the accurate figure for Auschwitz is and always was a bit more than a million dead. The Communist government of Poland exaggerated the number for their own purposes, but that was never taken seriously.]
It is, after all, indisputable that some earlier "facts" regarding
Holocaust have been streamlined and smoothed out for popular consumption. The lamp
shade and human soap stories, for instance, have been quietly retired. The
secret dealings between Nazis and Zionists during WWII have been suppressed.
Another ignored fact concerns the lethal Typhus epidemics in the death camps.
Why have they been airbrushed from popular memory?
[no airbrushing - it's a fact that people got typhus from being starved, frozen and forced to live in filthy overcrowded slave labor camps. so what? this fact doesn't exonerate the Nazi crimes at all]
One problem is that all the "experts" tend to be Jewish and
show bias on the
subject. How many Germans died in WWII? Five million? Actually I'm not
sure, since their suffering isn't supposed to matter and therefore their
casualties aren't noted. What was the total number of dead in WWII?--50 million? How
many have died in wars during the 20th Century?--275 million? (that's Zbig.
Brezinski's estimate). Considering this, even if six million Jews were
deliberately killed during WWII, shouldn't we demand that the Zionized world stop
caring so singularly about Jewish suffering? The Jewish obsession with everything
Jewish is shamefully narcissistic and burdensome. Their defiant
ethnocentrism is an ongoing insult to the rest of the human race.
[the Roma (Gypsy) people also suffered immensely. Perhaps twenty million Russians, mostly non-Jews, were killed in the war. This sort of pseudo-scholarship is typical fascist propaganda that distracts from reality.]
As for the "un-revisable" six million figure, Jews have superstitious
pertaining to the number "six" for claiming that six million died. In fact,
similar charges about six million Jews were made, incredibly, in 1919,
concerning the fantastic number of Jews facing death during WWI. These nutty
allegations were even published in the NY Times. The claimants were Jewish.
[this is really mentally ill]
Another reason Jews want to hype the number of victims is that they wanted to
have the greatest causality count so they could claim supreme victimhood and
reap the political rewards. Holocaust lore is essential to the precarious
legitimacy of the Jewish State. Just ask the Palestinians.
[this is about as mentally ill as Ann Coulter claiming that the 9/11 widows were glad to see their husbands burn alive in the WTC]
But the Holocaust story as now told is a libel on the German people,
pretends to show that German anti-Semitism sprang from nowhere. But the real
story is more complicated.
Rightly or wrongly, the Nazis blamed the Jews for America's entry into WWI as
well as the unjust and punitive Treaty of Versailles which followed. It's
also undeniable that international Jewry "declared war" (and launched an
international boycott) on Hitler's Germany in 1933. Even the outrage know as
"Kristallnacht" was provoked in part by a Jewish assassin (Herschel Grynszpan) who,
on November 7, 1938, walked into the German embassy in Paris and shot and
killed Ernest vom Rath, a German diplomat.
[it is hard to comprehend how people can lie so many times in a paragraph - especially the fact that Kristallnacht was a well planned "pogrom" by the fascists carried out simultaneously across the country. Mr. Grynszpan did do the act attributed to him, but he was acting in revenge for the forced deportation of his parents (?) to Poland -- it was hardly a Jewish attack on Nazi Germany, this is so ridiculous it's hard to believe an adult is writing this shit]
We know, for instance, that soon after the turn of the century, Jews
comprised many if not most of the leading political radicals in Europe. They were
instrumental in orchestrating and managing the Communist revolution which killed
millions of non-Jews well before Hitler's rise.
[this is essentially the core argument of "Mein Kampf," Hitler's declaration of genocidal intentions a decade before he became dictator]
Why aren't the Nazi-hunters
interested in finding any of these mass-murderers? Is it justice they're
after, or revenge and political advantage? The "innocent little Jewish shopkeeper"
archetype as peddled on TV is a self-exculpating myth.
However, that Jews were persecuted and murdered during Hitler's reign is
irrefutable. I've never seen or read a Holocaust "denier" who claims otherwise.
Not one. The extraordinary claim that "6,000,000 Jews were systematically
murdered" is what they contest. This deliberate mischaracterization of Holocaust
revisionism has been spread widely and purposefully by keepers of the
Holocaust faith. And the disinformation continues to flow.
David Irving, the imprisoned author of dozens of works on WWII, is now
alleged to have recently "recanted" some of his "Holocaust denial claims". But his
change-of-heart cannot believed so long as he is being held captive on account
of his scholarship.
One reader suggested that we call the search for truth in this matter
"Holocaust factualism". Good start. Both teams in this historical divide are
clearly inundated with advocates posing as scholars. The entire investigation
therefore has been rigged from the start. At the same time, it can't be denied
that those championing the Official Version are basically holding all the
political cards and resources.
[there's no "debate" on the fact of the Holocaust, just like there's no "debate" on the fact that the Earth revolves around the Sun]
But even if we accept their self-serving stories and invisible body counts,
it's still outrageous that the Jews and their lackeys deliberately ignore all
the non-Jewish fatalities in Hitler's "death camps". Holocaust survivor, Bruno
Bettelheim, writing in his book, "Surviving", notes that according to the
Communists in East Germany in 1945, as many as 11 million died in Hitler's
gulags, of which 5.5 to six million were Jewish. This means that, according to
Bettelheim, it's possible that as many as half of Hitler's concentration camp
victims were gentiles!
[most Holocaust documentation explicitly discusses the other half of the Holocaust - political dissidents, religious dissidents who refused to swear allegiance to the Nazis, Roma / Gypsy people, Russians and other slavic peoples, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses and other groups who also suffered terribly. Some of the camps had diverse populations of prisoners. But the main death camps at Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor and Chelmno had almost entirely Jewish victims - these were not "concentration camps" where prisoners were worked at hard slave labor and many died of exhaustion and disease. These four camps were small and efficient - nearly everyone who arrived was immediately murdered with exhaust fumes from internal combustion engines in air tight rooms (Chelmno used "gas wagons which were less efficient but no less lethal). Almost one-third of the Holocaust of the Jews occurred in those four camps - and only a tiny handful of people escaped or revolted and thereby survived the war. That is a reason why this immense murder is little know - a good introduction is the website www.deathcamps.org Unfortunately for the fascists who want to rehabilitate their political ideologies, there's been a lot of forensic work at these camps since the collapse of Communism, and burial pits with large amounts of ash clearly identifiable as human in origin have been documented.]
Where are the monuments to these innocent people? Why is their story being suppressed? Or should we now direct this Kosher Inquisition towards Bruno Bettelheim?
Whatever your view on the casualty count (or the disputed gas chamber stories), the focus must return to the core issue: intellectual freedom.
Historical truth doesn't need to be protected by any special law or speech code. Irving, Zundel, Rudolf and others, need and deserve our unwavering support if we intend to remain even nominally free.
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